[tex-live] [de.comp.text.tex] Re: hfoldsty und microtype - font problem

Frank Küster frank at kuesterei.ch
Sun Aug 28 00:21:52 CEST 2005

karl at freefriends.org (Karl Berry) wrote:

>     Maybe, TL 2005 should also stop using these "new hacks" now!?
> Sorry, I continue to strongly disagree.  It will break thousands of
> users documents -- like every one that tests for pdftex up until last year.

If you don't break them now, when are you going to break them?  If you
don't plan to break them anytime, have you already asked the pdftex
people to rename their primitives, so that they are usable again?

I don't know how long ifpdf.sty exists, but for sure it is longer than
just last year.  Ever since then anybody who wanted to do it right could
do it right.  And people where told to do it right in mailing lists and

When we tried to compile all¹ Debian packages that Build-Depend on teTeX
before uploading teTeX-3.0 to unstable (it's currently in experimental),
it turned out that only a couple of packages actually had problems; most
notably debiandoc-sgml and linuxdoc-tools which are used by a lot of
other packages, but on the other hand that was easy to fix.

> There is no good solution at this point.  

I would say the clear cut solution is good.

> Every compatible solution has
> been broken.

Indeed.  So there's no point in trying to stay compatible.  You can as
well adopt the clean solution and not fiddle with pdfTeX primitives.

Regards, Frank

¹xorg and packages build-depending on it wasn't tested yet, since it had
other problems at the time.
Frank Küster
Inst. f. Biochemie der Univ. Zürich
Debian Developer

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